“You can build your house out of copper bricks”, billionaire investor on global mining challenges
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At the 2025Energy Business Summit at the University of Southern California Marshall School of Business, billionaire mining entrepreneur Robert Friedland delivered a tour de force dissertation on critical minerals and the raw materials supply chain, El.kz reports.
His message was clear and sobering: The world has an insatiable thirst for metals, from surging military budgets to AI data centers and the greening of the global economy, but it does not have a credible way to supply the metals it intends to consume over the next few decades.
According to mining entrepreneur, United States is totally dependent on China for almost every critical mineral.
“In this country, people think a ham sandwich comes from a refrigerator. People that are highly educated and live in urban centers, they go to the refrigerator, they open it up, they take the ham sandwich out of the refrigerator. There’s 30 million pigs a month being slaughtered in a river of blood outside Chicago.”
Particular attention was paid to the price of scandium.
“The price of scandium has no where to go but up.”
Friedland is Co-Chairman and a non-executive director of Sunrise Energy Metals Ltd. (ASX: SRL), he is also the largest shareholder with a ~19% stake based on the latest reporting. Sunrise’s Syerston Scandium Project in New South Wales, Australia is one of the world’s largest undeveloped scandium resources with 19,000 tonnes of contained scandium metal in resource.
Copper was an important part of the discussion.
“You can’t build electric cars and windmills and solar and have a modern military without these metals. So, there’s a reason why underwater power cables are so expensive. That’s what it looks like when you put up a windmill offshore Nantucket Island and you want to bring that electricity and be green. It’s all copper, copper, copper, copper, copper. Copper right now, we’re expecting that to be a $270 billion a year market by tomorrow morning. And where’s this metal going to come from? There’s no copper inventory at all.”
“How much copper are we using? We’re consuming 30 million tonnes of copper a year, only 4 million tonnes of which is recycled. That means to maintain 3% GDP growth…..now listen carefully, with no electrification…this is with burning oil and gas. To maintain global 3% GDP growth, we have to mine the same amount of copper in the next 18 years as we mined in the last 10,000 years (combined). In the next 18 years, I’ve got to mine the same amount of copper as we mined the last 10,000 years…without electrification, without data centers, without solar and wind and the greening of the world economy. You people have no idea whatsoever what we’re facing. You’re dreaming.”
On copper, gold, and a ‘failing’ dollar, Robert Friedland stated:
“And the energy demand is beyond anything you can possibly imagine. Like, it’s just crazy. And so, we’re coming here from the most basic of industries telling you copper is money. You can build your house out of copper bricks. 10 years from now, you can just tear your house down and buy a fleet of electric Lamborghinis with the profit…because the dollar is failing against copper. The dollar is failing against gold. The dollar is failing against water and food. We face a hyperinflationary era here.”
On solar energy and grid-scale energy storage:
“Solar doesn't work for a mine because the sun only shines five hours a day. Solar is useless unless you have grid-scale storage.”
“As you balkanize what was formerly a just-in-time world economy to a just-in-case world economy, some of these raw materials are going to be of nearly infinite value.”
As well as Friedland commented on AI & drones:
“All this stuff about AI, everything you're hearing, it’s a fantasy because we don't have the energy.”
“We failed to regulate AI, it’s out there…..even Indonesia or Turkey can make a great drone. If a million drones are coming at you, if you can't find a way to shoot them down, some of them going to get through and you die.”
“First of all, rare earths aren’t rare and they’re not earths, they’re relatively common metals. But we lack the processing capability required for most of these metals, and we are entirely dependent on China for most of them.”
“We are going to see a continuing escalating competition for these supply chain issues until we find a way to live with each other. At the moment, the competition continues to intensify and it’s likely to continue to intensify. You will see this in the form of higher and higher raw materials prices when expressed in the United States Dollar.”
Rising prices and opportunities for Kazakhstan
The price of copper increased to around $12,000 per tonne. Countries with significant strategic metal reserves gain both economic and geopolitical advantages. Kazakhstan, with its large resources of copper and other metals, could be among the countries that benefit from the global raw materials shortage and the reshaping of supply chains.
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